If you are coming from another Club
If you have at any time in the past, or currently play on Friday nights in a representative competition, you will need to get permission from your club. This does not mean that you are leaving but are letting your club know that you want to go to other clubs’ Try Out sessions, to see what they can offer.
Some players do go to a number of different Try Out sessions to see what positions in their teams are available. Basketball Victoria permits “Shopping around” by players during the off seasons of basketball. These months are from September to December.
Once a year (in October) the Melbourne Juniors – invites all players to ‘Try Out’ to show their skills and abilities and become a Melbourne Tigers Representative player.
The Structure of the Try Outs is to;
- Allow ALL players attending an opportunity to perform at their best during Try Outs. Some practice matches, properly refereed, involving Trying Out players will be arranged on Friday nights during November.
- To have the right coaches present observing all the players.
- Coaches should have the chance to see as many participants as they need to construct a team suitable for the competition they will enter into.
- Coaches are to meet before the Try Outs, during the Try Outs and after the Try Outs to determine (as a group) what players would be best suited for the teams that each coach is selecting.
The club has specified some criterion that should be observed by the coaches selecting players;
- All decisions shall be made as a group of coaches that have coached or will coach the players.
- Disputes shall be settled by the Head coach, Director of Coaching or President of the Club.
- All players selected shall be financial to the club. Payment of fees in advance.
- The players shall have been regularly attending training during the previous season.
The club is also interested in development of future teams. Specifically bottom age players should be placed in a division that they can grow, develop and be challenged.
Coaches of MJBC teams shall be appointed on their experience, previous win loss record and their observance of club rules.
The No1 and its reserve (TBA on No2 or No3) team shall be designated for the best top age players. There will be 18 to 20 players in this squad. Final selections for the No1 & reserve teams shall be announced mid November 2015.
The No2 and its reserve team shall be designated for the best bottom age players. These development teams will make up the nucleus of the next seasons No1 & its reserve teams in 2018.
The No5 down teams shall all be development teams used to feed the top teams when players drop out or are injured.
What happens after Try Outs
Players should continue to attend all Sunday training sessions – even after Try Outs have officially finished. If you are not sure on training times, speak to the coach or club Administrator, David Watson. MSAC is not available to train from mid November on Sundays. We normally train at Oakleigh recreation centre on Sundays.
Team coaches should have at least appointed temporarily a team manger or a ‘go to person’ for the squads. Get this ‘go to’ manager person’s phone number or the coaches phone number and let them know what your child’s intentions are. If you miss a week of training its your responsibility to let someone know that you won’t be at training and / or find out what time training is to be next.
The coaches & administrator will not have the time to chase players who don’t show up to training sessions. If your child wants to play – keep showing up to trainings or until instructed to move to another group or time. We will try our best to ensure that your child is placed into a team. Parents need to help out in getting the teams happening. The quicker the teams are organised the happier everybody in the group will be.
IMPORTANT – The club has to register some 500 players with the VJBL, place them into teams and attempt to supply suitable coaches for each age group and team, all within a period of a month. Obviously some of our best teams need to be quickly and properly organised in readiness for the pre-grading games. These pre-grading and grading will happen all to quickly and resources have to be shifted to ensure that where the biggest problems are, they get sorted out first.
In doing so, other teams ranked down the list, who will play in the Eastern qualifying competition or the u20’s age group will not start until February next year appear to be left out. This is not the case. We will advise when the different grades start.
New players may join our club by attending Try Outs and be selected into one of the Melbourne “Rep teams”.
Melbourne Tigers Juniors provides a programme for players who wish to enhance their skills by competing in higher levels of basketball competition. This Competition is called Championship or Representative Basketball “Representative Ball” is what higher standard girls and boys teams are entered into by the Melbourne Boys in Victorian Junior State Championships and Metropolitan League Divisions. These competitions come under the governing body of Basketball in Victoria. Melbourne representative teams play under the Melbourne Tigers banner.
You will see the representative players getting around MSAC in Melbourne Tigers uniforms, polo shirts & red windcheaters. Our Club colours are Red Black and Yellow.
Rep. Ball is played every Friday Night with the exception of the middle week of the school holidays and over the Christmas vacation. Some Finals are played on Sundays.
Rep. Ball was designed to give keen junior basketballers an opportunity to participate at a more competitive level than the domestic Saturday afternoon / night competitions. By competing against composite teams from other Associations within Victoria and, in particular, the Metropolitan and semi-urban areas.
There are currently three levels of competition within “Rep. Ball”
Rep. Ball is a learning curve and takes the new players coming into the competition time to get used to the “pressure on the ball” type of game and tougher defense. but it is still a game and one which junior players should enjoy.
The Victorian Championships is the highest level junior players in Victoria can aspire to. These teams are involved in more travelling around Melbourne than;
Victorian Junior League [the second level] These Junior league divisions are not regionalised. Games are being played within the Metropolitan area. And;
Eastern Qualifying / North West League which is played in regional areas of Melbourne [the third level]
One of the most frequently questions asked is the “Age” grouping – junior basketballers playing representative basketball
Age Groups are;
Under 12 – eligible players must not turn 12 in 2018, they are born in 2008, 2009, 2010
Under 14 – eligible players must not turn 14 in 2018, they are born in 2006, 2007
Under 16 – eligible players must not turn 16 in 2018, they are born in 2004, 2005
Under 18 – eligible players must not turn 18 in 2018, they are born in 2002, 2003
This is quite often a shock to parents who are concerned that their child may be coming up against much older players. All junior players will spend a maximum of two years in each of the age groups. For those starting out or who are bottom age players, they are placed in comparable easier or lower grades. They may come up against older players on the odd occasion. The age group classifications for all players is no different to domestic basketball where there are also top and bottom age players playing in the age groups.
The aim of Rep. Ball for Melbourne Tigers is to develop our younger players for the future. While, at this early stage of their basketball life, it is difficult to comprehend that they may one day be playing senior basketball and participating in such prestigious Senior competitions as the Victorian Basketball League, Metropolitan League, etc. – IT DOES HAPPEN! There are currently several ex-representative junior Tiger boys playing for the NBL team (one of these players is Andrew Gaze!).
At present, the Rep. Ball season is played for nearly twelve months commencing approximately mid-late November this year and going through to September next year. There are 3 phases of competition played throughout the year.
- Spring season or Pre Grading season October to November 2018.
- Grading Season Phase 1 – November – December 2018
- Grading Season Phase 2 – February to April 2019
These two different phases decide where the teams will play throughout the main
- Championship Season April through to September.
We finish off the basketball year on Dec 14th 2018 and recommence on Feb 1st 2019. This is in line with the School holidays & terms commencing.
The cost in entering teams in “Rep. Ball’s is substantial but the club tries to keep these at a minimum and an affordable rate. Currently, the annual Melbourne Tigers player registration fee is;
Victorian Championships & Metropolitan grades $550 for the 12 monthly period
Discounts of $20 are offered when the total yearly fees are paid up by December.
Current costs for the special Tigers uniforms are $100 singlet and shorts.
Warm-up tops may be available in 2018 at. $50.
However, with a view to encouraging our younger players, Under 12 teams are currently charged an annual registration fee of $500.
The majority of training is on Sunday mornings for the under 20’s 18’s & 16’s, with the under 12 & under 14 junior boys teams training Sunday afternoons. When football is on, times are changed to suit.
Rep. Ball does take a lot of dedication on behalf of the parents and players, particularly the parents who have the responsibility of transporting their kids to training and games.
Due to car parking charges at MSAC and the unavailability of MSAC because of the number of events MSAC runs, the boys club trains at the Oakleigh recreation centre Park Rd Oakleigh on Sundays.
Training fees at MSAC are casual rates $4.50 each week. Because of these high fees the Melbourne Boys have decided to train at Oakleigh recreation centre. The number of weeks available to train at Oakleigh is 40 weeks compared to 25 weeks at MSAC. Parents & Spectators can come along to training sessions at no charge.
Games will continue to be played at MSAC on Friday nights until it becomes too expensive to hire the courts.
These vary from stadium to Stadium. Spectator and Player Entry Fees are required at all stadiums and range between $3.00 to $3.50 per person.
A team sheet fee (applied to pay for the referees) is also payable before the commencement of the game. This varies on the standard played. i.e. Victorian Championship teams pay more than Metropolitan grade teams.- The fees start at $50 far the younger age groups up to $70 for the older age groups and depending on the level of competition. The “Team Manager” collects the Team Sheet fee (on average $55 per player per month) on behalf of the team to ensure that the team has a “kitty” to pay for expenses incurred by the team during the season.
These passes are available at all stadiums from the Venue Manager and should be requested if you intend to go on to another stadium on the same night. i.e. parents & spectators pay at one venue only and get a pass if you need to go to another venue.
Inter-venue passes are available to both spectators and players, subject to;
The player must pay at the venue at which he/she is playing irrespective of whether an entry fee has been paid for that player at an earlier stadium as a spectator.
Upon completion of his/her game the player is entitled to an Inter-venue Pass for any stadium, as a spectator.
A Team Manager is required for each of our teams – The Team Manager is usually
a volunteer from one of the parents and assists the coach in many ways but, particularly, in correctly filling out the scoresheet, collecting team sheet fees, etc. Information is supplied to assist each Team Manager with the requirements of the different competitions. At higher levels fines are exceptionally high for scoresheet misdemeanours, walkovers, etc.
Team Managers are welcome to speak to David Watson either at MSAC on Friday game nights or on 9380 4474 [Inc answer machine] if they have any queries – this also applies to parents who have general enquires or wish to know more about “Rep. Ball”. All contact with the governing bodies of basketball must be done through the Administrator David Watson. Calls from coaches, parents, team managers, etc. will not be accepted by the Basketball Commissions (VJBL, & Eastern Qualifying).
Fixtures & ladders info can be got from http://www.vjbl.com.au/
Up To Date Club info http: //www.melbtigers.com.au/
Our club coaching staff is based on players from the past and a few ex parents who want to see their children and others in teams improve as players and as people. We have a number of qualified coaches that run teams in the Friday night competition. The club has got booklets and an education program for parents that are willing to assist. We also run training sessions with other teams that do have experienced coaches. Join in, it’s not that difficult.
All of our coaches do give up their most valuable time to educate the players and we would ask that you support them. While styles may change from coach to coach – coaches all aim for the same result – to improve the player’s skills. If you have any queries of the coach as a parent, it is recommended approaches be made after training – rather than before or after a game.
The referees are part of the game and, while we may not like their decisions at times, verbal or other abuse of referees is unacceptable behaviour and also sets a bad example to the children. A copy of the Basketball Victoria’s Code of Conduct is available on demand at the basketball office. We would encourage every parent/player to read this. Melbourne players at all levels are expected to conduct themselves in a manner which does not bring discredit to themselves, their parents and the club.
For all junior enquires, payments, uniforms, information or any problems you can find us just outside the basketball pay entry turnstiles point at the Basketball end of MSAC.
Is always on hand at MSAC if your child is injured. A First Aid Officer will attend or you can bring them along to the first aid office next to the Basketball Office at MSAC.
At training sessions speak to the front desk for any first aid assistance.
Can be bought or hired for the night. There is no charge but a deposit of money or valuables is to be left at the office while the uniforms are being used.
We hope you will see your way clear to allowing your child to take the next step in his / her basketball “career” by joining our representative program.
For further information: Calls between 9am to 5pm
David Watson 9380 4474